tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post8352830518176112373..comments2023-06-12T12:00:36.504+01:00Comments on Bloggerheads: the Back-Up Blog: Requesting a response from FasthostsTimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-73088456589133378502007-09-25T22:39:00.000+01:002007-09-25T22:39:00.000+01:00Thanks to you and Craig for turning a light on for...Thanks to you and Craig for turning a light on for some of us.Goonerholichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11335456845139064337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-10791617594807954842007-09-25T20:18:00.000+01:002007-09-25T20:18:00.000+01:00Bartholomew:I agree. Also, understanding of the in...Bartholomew:<BR/><BR/>I agree. Also, understanding of the inequalities here are complicated by other forms of online bullying that lead some victims to a point where they have no choice but to say; "Would you care to defend that statement in court?" or perhaps even refer matters to the police.<BR/><BR/>One key difference here is that Schillings haven't actually done anything but threaten legal action. But in the process they've unwittingly brought a great deal of publicity to a weak case, when their reputation as ruthless Rottweilers is key to their business. I'm betting that until recently they thought they were largely immune to blowback because of this; observe how many immediate reactions (including mine) involved focusing on this aspect as if it would be considered a negative quality by everybody.<BR/><BR/>Jeremy:<BR/><BR/>I invite you to watch in the coming days, and keep an eye out for the details. Usmanov seems very reluctant to have his day in court.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-20271476901249717492007-09-25T19:53:00.000+01:002007-09-25T19:53:00.000+01:00There are too many bullies out there using libel t...There are too many bullies out there using libel threats to suppress free political discussion on the internet, thanks to duff UK libel laws. It would be nice if we could see some reform without somebody having to risk all their worldly goods. You and Craig Murray are both very brave, good luck with it.Richard Bartholomewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10911620623720291791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-29325496880928407492007-09-25T19:19:00.000+01:002007-09-25T19:19:00.000+01:00I've missed most of this situation. But, is it not...I've missed most of this situation. But, is it not the fact that if Mr Usamov feels he was libelled, then is it not reasonable for a firm of litigators like Schillings to carry out instructions?Jeremy Jacobshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02014279463894807064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-67595650517921747382007-09-25T18:53:00.000+01:002007-09-25T18:53:00.000+01:00Do feel free to remind me after we've published th...Do feel free to remind me after we've published that timeline (which will probably require a summary anyway).<BR/><BR/>Thanks for spreading the word.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-22271825550571435532007-09-25T18:46:00.000+01:002007-09-25T18:46:00.000+01:00Nice to have you back. Ive attracted an audience o...Nice to have you back. Ive attracted an audience of Spanish speaking bloggers to what's going on here, so if you can send me brief summaries to translate and spread around the Latinosphere, it'd be much appreciated.<BR/><BR/>-Sanddef<BR/><BR/>sanddef(at)gmail(dot)comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-86112617957418978742007-09-25T16:57:00.000+01:002007-09-25T16:57:00.000+01:00You're not alone, solidarity blogmig@!You're not alone, solidarity blogmig@!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17111132651663342181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-19618519103341319922007-09-25T16:21:00.001+01:002007-09-25T16:21:00.001+01:00Good to see that the disruption has been temporary...Good to see that the disruption has been temporary, and - perhaps more to the point - so <I>massively</I> counterproductive.Mr Eugenideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555302880124512593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-81003715963745935432007-09-25T16:21:00.000+01:002007-09-25T16:21:00.000+01:00I've a feeling that the key to change is to have h...<I>I've a feeling that the key to change is to have hosting companies themselves driving it.</I><BR/><BR/>I have a similar feeling. Let's see what Fasthosts does with this opportunity first.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-91353866602453098372007-09-25T16:12:00.000+01:002007-09-25T16:12:00.000+01:00Welcome backWelcome backMatt Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00662702921579824857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-36503493052897761802007-09-25T16:11:00.000+01:002007-09-25T16:11:00.000+01:00Very true. I'm amazed at how 'cross-spectrum' this...Very true. I'm amazed at how 'cross-spectrum' this has become. Still getting ignored/misrepresented by the MSM though.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps a widespread campaign to get as many high-profile bloggers hosting abroad as possible would be a start. I've a feeling that the key to change is to have hosting companies themselves driving it. Give them a kick up the arse.Jheradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11830114369327097837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-23826048738627136632007-09-25T15:53:00.000+01:002007-09-25T15:53:00.000+01:00We can try. Why waste a rare and beautiful cross-s...We can try. Why waste a rare and beautiful cross-spectrum catalyst?Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-46673393828858058482007-09-25T15:47:00.000+01:002007-09-25T15:47:00.000+01:00I don't know - would you be able to make a differe...I don't know - would you be able to make a difference to our libel laws? Hosting abroad won't shelter you, but it will shelter your ISP - which in turn forces opponents to confront you legally. I think a long-term campaign hosted abroad might work better. But then, I'm no expert.Jheradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11830114369327097837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-27176756331756797482007-09-25T14:51:00.000+01:002007-09-25T14:51:00.000+01:00"I choose the danger." - Leonard McCoy (Star Trek ..."I choose the danger." - <I>Leonard McCoy</I> (Star Trek III: The Search for Spock)<BR/><BR/>:o)<BR/><BR/>The alternative is to meekly accept the libel laws as they are and abandon any notion of hosting locally.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-29026598357491761602007-09-25T14:34:00.000+01:002007-09-25T14:34:00.000+01:00Welcome to the Bloggers world where you are modest...Welcome to the Bloggers world where you are modestly (but not completely free) from showbiz lawyers and Russian gangstas thanks to the legal system of the Land of the Free and the home of the Brave and their wonderful (but ever so slightly trashed c/oMr A Gonzalez, Mr Yoo etc.,)Constitution and wonderful 1st Amendment.<BR/><BR/>As a result the article which Craig tells me is the origin of the complaint by the fat football fan published in 2005 <BR/>http://tinyurl.com/38659v<BR/>- was re-posted the same day and has happily dwelt there ever since, untroubled by threats, legal or otherwise - along with some other and prior articles about Mr Umarov and the treatments he received from Mr Karimov's goons - plus sundry other remarks about Mr Usmanov.<BR/><BR/>Our view here is that to insist in pursuing redress, in writing or financially from Schillings / Fasthosts is pointless, exhausting and ultimately worthless.Retreive what you can with good grace inn the way of data files and move on.<BR/><BR/>Get on doing what you do best and attack the real villains from the relative calm and peace of distant Dubya's Disneyland.<BR/><BR/>Choose your battles.<BR/><BR/>PS - we will post details for others to direct them.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Life is just too fucking short.zizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15249645812407323273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-34264157049339134132007-09-25T14:18:00.000+01:002007-09-25T14:18:00.000+01:00Good to see you back in action!Good to see you back in action!Jheradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11830114369327097837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-27722472216655173622007-09-25T13:33:00.000+01:002007-09-25T13:33:00.000+01:00Great you're back. I'm looking forward to the next...Great you're back. I'm looking forward to the next weeks - this is better than any Hitchcock movie. Hope we'll get a happy ending too.The Cartoonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03456948706967701326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-9720258805792912382007-09-25T13:16:00.000+01:002007-09-25T13:16:00.000+01:00Hahahaha! No, not if it's a correction. Cheers for...Hahahaha! No, not if it's a correction. Cheers for your comment, and for <A HREF="http://www.bbdo.co.uk/blog/archives/599" REL="nofollow">this</A>.<BR/><BR/>Loving <A HREF="http://www.bbdo.co.uk/blog/archives/597" REL="nofollow">this too</A>, BTW.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-26200581087390156162007-09-25T13:14:00.000+01:002007-09-25T13:14:00.000+01:00Glad to see that you are back up and running.Glad to see that you are back up and running.Fidothedoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13588552210424845667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5627483180696699439.post-6186036859706207922007-09-25T13:11:00.000+01:002007-09-25T13:11:00.000+01:00Welcome back.If you believe Fasthosts information ...Welcome back.<BR/><BR/>If you believe Fasthosts information that was released is potentially libelous to any party (and they have posted it on their site), could you not get them to take themselves offline with a strongly worded solicitors letter :)beaubodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16012118216575112781noreply@blogger.com